Mistakes about the Earth, Moon, Sun

The wrong astronomy is a fact that muslims NEVER mention. No omniscient god is bound to wrong science. No god made these mistakes, besides a scammer.

The Quran reflects an ancient, geocentric model with the sky as a dome, with stars as lamps (67:5), and a nearby “heaven” from which fragments can fall (43:9), and which can be reached by stairs (6:35). This points to human misperception rather than to a timeless, all-knowing creator who wrote a clear book.

Quran on Earth, Moon, Sun:

22:65 says, “Allah prevents the heaven from falling on the earth.”

How can the universe fall on the earth? The earth is a dot in a finite space.

2:22 says, “Allah has made the earth like a bed and the sky like a bow.”

The earth is not a flat bed but round, and the sky is not the blue bow above the earth.

19:90 says, “The sky can crack.”

The sky is not a dome “above” the earth. The sky or universe is a space without end.

57:21 says, “The heaven [the universe] and the earth are of equal width.”

Nonsense. The earth is a dot in the universe.

18:86 “The sun sets in a puddle.”

The sun neither rises nor sets anywhere. The sun is a star on 150.000.000 distance.

18:90 “Where the sun rises, there lives a people.”

No human can survive a 6,000 degree sun. Who wrote the quran?

91:2 “The moon follows the sun.”

From Earth, it’s an optical illusion. But they didn’t know any better.

81:1 says “…When the sun is rolled up.”

Back then, people thought the sun and moon were flat disks.

55:7 says “We have established the 7 heavens…”

It’s a vain fantasy, copied from the bible. The universe does not consist of 7 heavens. There is one infinite space.

75:9 says “The sun and the moon are connected.”

During an eclipse, the moon and the sun appear to be converging. That’s how it appears. But in reality, they are one behind the other, 150,000,000 meters apart. The sun is much larger than the moon, but because the sun is so far away, they appear almost the same size. It’s a coincidence. A creator of the sun and moon would know they don’t converge. So saying: ”The sun and the moon are connected”, can’t be from god.

37:6-10 says, “Stars [lamps] are missiles against the devil.”

Stars look like small lights in the sky, but in reality a star is bigger than the earth, while a satan is so small that he can fit in your nose, according to a hadith. So no logic, it doesn’t make sense.

36:37-40 says, “The sun floats in an orbit.”

Wrong. In reality, the earth rotates on its axis and moves around the sun. The Earth revolves around the Sun, and not the other way around. See video.

67:5 says, “And indeed We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps.”

The closest star is actually our own sun at 93,000,000 miles (150,000,000 km) away. The next closest star is Proxima Centauri. It is about 25,300,000,000,000 miles (about 39,900,000,000,000 kilometers) away. A star is a very large, glowing ball of gas. This heat gives the star light.

6:35 says: Allah says: ‘Muhammad, if you can, find a ladder to the sky as a sign.’ A 25 billion mile staircase? Logic? No. At that time, they didn’t know anything about the distances between the earth/moon/sun, the size of stars, the rotation of the earth, and trillions of planets.

67:5 says: ‘The devil is pelted with stars [lamps].’  Fairy tales.  A devil is small, he fits in your nose according a sahih hadith, while a star is many times bigger than the earth. One star can destroy the earth.

65:12 says: ‘Allah has created seven heavens and seven earths.’ It’s an old myth.

71:16 says: ‘The moon is placed as a light.’ Not true. The moon doesn’t give light, but is illuminated by the sun. Who wrote the Quran?

36:38 says: ‘And the sun runs towards its destination.’. The sun has no destination, It doesn’t move in an orbit; the sun doesn’t do anything. See video above.

  36:40 ”The sun is not to overtake the moon. Each floats in an orbit.” So the sun and moon rise and set. And they cannot overtake each other. This is the conclusion seen from Earth. In reality, it is the Earth rotating on its axis, which makes it appear as if the sun moves in orbit.

21:32 says: ‘The sky is a protective vault.’

Meteorites and asteroids can hit earth, planets can also hit earth? So no protective vault.

16:79 says: ‘Allah controls the birds under the [blue] arc of the sky.’

Birds goes where they can survive. It has nothing to do with control. There is no blue arc in the universe.  The perceived dome-shaped structure of the sky is a psychological effect of human perception, where the sky appears as a vault extending from the horizon to the zenith (the highest point), rather than as an actual physical dome. In ancient times, this concept of a “firmament” or “heavenly vault” was also used in religious and cosmological descriptions, such as in the Bible, where it was depicted as a solid structure separating the waters and to which stars were attached.

13:2 says: ‘We have established the sky without visible pillars’.

A myth, that’s what the Bible thought about it. See video, no pillars.

43:9 says: ‘A piece of sky can fall on you’.

The cosmos does not function as a roof for the earth, see video.

34:9 says: ‘Allah can make the heavens fall down on the earth by His command.’

Nonsense, the cosmos is not an arch or a roof, it is an infinite space. Who wrote the Quran?

21:104 says: ‘We can roll up the sky [canopy]’.

There are no 7 heavens, no canopy, the universe is an infinite space with planets, stars and moons.

81:1 ”The sun is rolled up”.

You can roll up something that’s flat. The sun was thought to be a flat disk. This isn’t surprising, because seen from Earth, you wouldn’t expect the sun to be a round sphere. The problem is that the supposed creator suggests the sun is a flat disk.

81:2 says: ‘The stars can fall.’

Stars exist in all directions, not just ‘above’ you. They do not ‘fall’ and are not affected by gravity, some are 500x larger than the earth.

20:53 says: ‘He has made the earth like a huge carpet’.

The Quran gives no indication that the earth is round.

41:11 ”Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, “Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion.” They said, “We have come willingly.”

Of course, God talking to inanimate objects such as heavens and earth and telling them “come together willingly or unwillingly” and they responding, “we will come willingly,” is good for children’s stories. Heaven and earth are made of gasses and rocks. They don’t have a will and don’t respond.

Furthermore, the earth was never separated from the universe. So they could not have come together.

25:45 ”It is the sun that, as a guide, lengthens shadows”.

Wrong. The sun doesn’t revolve around the earth. It is the earth that rotates on its axis, and therefore it is the earth that shortens or lengthens shadows.

18:83 ”So he followed a path to the place where the sun sets. He saw that the sun was set in black, muddy, warm water. He found people near it”.

The sun has no place to set; the distance between the earth and the sun is 150 million km. No people can live at the place where the sun would set because the sun is 6,000 degrees Celsius. The Quran has nothing divine; it was written by ignorant people.

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A glimp of Muhammad’s knowledge about the sunset. The following sounds like a different version of Abu Dawud’s narration, which was given earlier:

Sahih al-Bukhari 3199 (Book 59, Hadith 10):

Narrated Abu Dharr:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, “Do you know where the Sun goes (at the time of sunset)?” I replied, “Allah and His Apostle know better.” He said, “It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: ‘And the Sun runs its fixed course for a term (decreed).’” (read 36.38)

Such was the miserable state of Muhammad’s knowledge. He thought that the Sun is an animate and cognitive being, so that it can prostrate itself, ask permission, and so on; and that Allah would give “orders” to that anthropomorphic Sun! If you are a carpenter, do you ever give orders to the chairs that you make? If you are a construction worker, do you give orders to your bricks? Why, if you were the creator of the Sun, would you give orders to it? Such thoughts can be entertained today only by little children, and even children stop thinking such nonsense after they learn what the Sun is, in the first years of elementary school. In addition, as you know very well, the Sun does not “go” anywhere at the time of sunset. It is the Earth that turns; the Sun merely travels within our Galaxy, and we follow its course, twirling around it once per year. But Muhammad didn’t have the slightest clue about all that, and thought instead that the Sun needs to go somewhere (and even ask permission from Allah)! If Muhammad was divinely inspired by Allah, why did he speak such factually wrong things, such plain nonsense, as we learn from Abu Dharr through Sahih al-Bukhari?

This hadith shows us what Muhammad really believed. But he didn’t even invent by himself what he believed. He wasn’t smart enough to come up with original ideas. Muhammad simply made a salad in his mind out of ideas that already existed in ancient cultures of that region of the world. For example, most ancient cultures believed that the Sun and Moon were gods who cruised along the dome of the sky. The ancient Egyptians believed that the sun-god Ra was born every morning, growing in strength until noon, and cruising the sky on a boat. At noon he would switch to another boat that carried him to the entrance to the nether world, where further boats carried him through the night. Does that bring to mind Muhammad’s wondering: “Do you know where the Sun goes (at the time of sunset)?”? Of course it does, because Muhammad’s knowledge about what happens to the Sun at night rested on mythological beliefs of ancient and pagan peoples, such as the Egyptians and Greeks. (In Greek mythology, too, the Sun was personified as a god, the god Helios, who, during the night hours crossed the sea — “Oceanus”, encircling the earth — in a boat from West to East.) So it is not surprising at all that Muhammad personified objects such as the Sun and the Moon, when his beliefs are compared against the background of legends and mythologies of peoples that surrounded him and his culture. This observation, however, should make every pious Muslim wonder: how could Muhammad ever be considered “divinely inspired” if he believed in such falsehoods?

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